〃I feel a lot of sympathy for them, and I also hate them。 It's kind of a tragic class in China,〃 Wang says, speaking over dinner recently at a dumpling restaurant in Beijing。 〃Poor people and the middle class really hate them, and it's unclear whether the government, in order to deal with public opinion, will punish them。〃
America's wealthiest are subject to a ritual public purge whenever hard times hit and excesses e to light。 Today's target of choice may be AIG, but this has been true since Ida Tarbell and the trust…busters made John D。 Rockefeller the most hated man in America。
In the , a free press, independent courts and elected representatives—each with their own shortings, to be sure—help sort out who deserves to be pilloried, and how to fix the underlying mess。
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China takes a different approach。 A number of prominent members of Forbes' China rich lists over the years h*e been detained or imprisoned – the 〃curse〃 Wang describes。
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Since Forbes' first China rich list in 1999, Sichuanese tycoon Mou Qizhong, actress Liu Xiaoqing, orchid king Yang Bin, Shanghai developer Zhou Zhengyi, entrepreneur Tang Wanxin and investment boss Zhang Rongkun h*e been sentenced to prison for crimes ranging from tax evasion to fraud to stock manipulation to bribery。 Now Gome founder Wong Kwong Yu, second…richest on our list last year, is under investigation for stock manipulation。
What was their real crime, though? Wang would argue that the only difference between the jailed and the free is who is lucky enough to keep the f*or of the government。 All wealthy capitalists in China share a 〃terrible history〃 of corruption, he says, without which 〃they wouldn't be where they are today。〃txt电子书分享平台
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To root out all the capitalist criminals, Wang suggests, the munist Party would h*e to root out itself。 And the party needs the wealthy class it helped create, to make the economy go and stay in power。 The party can sacrifice a few of the rich; the only question is which few。
〃Before, it was Mou Qizhong, today there's Wong Kwong Yu,〃 Wang says。 〃Tomorrow, who will it be? God only knows。〃
By the end of 〃The Curse of Forbes,〃 our anti…hero Feng Shi, a Beijing real estate magnate, goes to prison after helping his love, Jiang Qing, flee the country。 Wang playfully suggests that readers might see in Feng and Jiang the real…life Beijing property tycoons (and Forbes rich listers) Pan Shiyi and Zhang Xin the chairman and CEO, respectively, of SOHO China。
〃I h*e no way of knowing what's going to happen to Pan Shiyi and Zhang Xin, if the same thing might not happen to them,〃 says Wang, who doesn't know the couple and makes no specific claim against them other than that they are wealthy。 〃In an environment like China, they really h*e to be careful。〃
Pan and Zhang may h*e lost much of their paper fortune in the stock market—SOHO's shares are down 70% from their fall 2007 peak—but they seem to h*e no reason to worry that the government will suddenly decide that their gains were ill…gotten。 When approached at their offices in Beijing Thursday, they professed bemusement, not fear。
〃He'll say what he has to say, but the truth is that we don't live in fear,〃 Zhang says。 〃Everyone's a criminal? Is that what you're saying? That's just not true。 Simply not true。 To say that every rich person in China is a criminal, how can that be true?〃
It can't be true, but that doesn't mean anyone in China is safe from the curse of Forbes。
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《中国企业家》杂志对王刚的专访
王刚:我写的《福布斯咒语》
《中国企业家》:从《月亮背面》到《福布斯咒语》,你小说里的商人永远处于很狼狈的状态。难道就不可能有一个轻松从容的状态来追求财富?
王刚:我没见过比尔?盖茨,我不知道他是怎么富起来的。但是在我们这个社会,你要想得到钱,你一定是出卖灵魂的。无一例外,没有一个人能够逃脱。你开发一个房地产项目,从得到土地,到规划、开工、拿到贷款,这个过程中你有可能打两百个报告,盖将近三百个公章,怎么可能不行贿受贿呢?整个制度设计让你觉得不搞白不搞。
《中国企业家》:企业家注定是罪人?
王刚:不说戴罪立功吧,他们全都在戴罪挣扎。当然有时候他们也不得不戴罪立点功。
《中国企业家》:可是他们的角色和形象也在发生变化,小丑也很伟大。
王刚:企业家在我的心目当中,他从来没有高过。我从来没觉得潘石屹、王石这样的人有什么神秘的,别看他们在电视上闹得欢。我对他们是强烈的批判者。我以前打过比方,你敢嘲讽企业家,敢嘲讽明星,你怎么敢嘲讽政治家?所以通过这一点,你就知道企业家能有什么地位?企业家原来还能欺负一下农民工,现在连农民工都不敢欺负了。中国的企业家他要前进一步都得要付出相当多的代价。有人说,你为什么不能在小说里把企业家写得像曹操那样大气磅礴?让我们闭眼想一想,企业家有谁又不像小丑呢?
《中国企业家》:在西方,企业家一方面扮演重要的社会角色,一方面社会形象也比较正常。为什么企业家在中国会是这种处境呢?
王刚:首先有一个问题,当一个国家真正产生了一个富人阶层的时候,那是富人的“富”,而不是负数的“负”。现在,因为经济政策来回变动,所以这个人今天还在台上珠光宝气,明天他就可能成为一个无限的负数、负增长,欠债、逃跑。因此,中国现在没有一个真正的富人阶层产生,他担心自己的明天和另外一类人是一样的。
这就又要谈到社保和医保,社会福利的问题。这两个没有解决,使中国所谓的富豪阶层、中产阶层和贫困老百姓阶层全部都惶惶不可终日。于是,有这么大的不安全感,人和人之间就互相残杀了。潘石屹说要征收物业税,业主说要向房地产商征收高额的税接济穷人。这说的全是不负责任的话,都是想让自己不掏钱让别人掏钱嘛。这个国家的穷人要求富人们进行大面积的厮杀,社会怎么可能没有矛盾呢?
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《福布斯》对话中国作家 中国确有〃福布斯咒语〃
中新网3月30日电 刚刚在企鹅国际出版集团推出长篇小说《英格力士》英文版并全球发行的中国作家王刚,由于日前在《当代》杂志上推出酝酿五年之久的新作《福布斯咒语》,又一次成为了万众瞩目的焦点。
在著名的文学杂志《当代》的推荐语中,《福布斯咒语》展示了“新世纪中国资本家的宿命”,并将其与中国现代文学史上长篇巨作《子夜》相提并论。这一非同寻常的作品,立即引起了国际社会的关注。原BBC名记者,《JOURNALIST》的邓肯赫维特采访了王刚。他认为,《福布斯咒语》是一部关于性,金钱,权力的小说,但同时又是一部充满其它社会意义的非小说作品。邓肯写道:要了解眼前的中国,一定要读王刚。而王刚这部以 “福布斯”冠名的小说,也吸引了美国《福布斯》杂志的关注,上周四,福布斯记者Gady Epstein专门就长篇小说《福布斯咒语》赶到北京采访了作家王刚,并第一次为一本中国小说,在这份世界最著名的财经杂志刊发了署名专题文章。
Gady Epstein的长文中这样介绍王刚的《福布斯咒语》:从小说的开端我们就能得知中国的富人过得并不怎么好,我们马上就能知道主人公冯石是一个什么样的人,像很多富人一样深陷债务之中,并且被“原罪”所折磨。这个反英雄的主角在穷途末路之时也像穷人一样地恨全世界,恰恰在这个时候他爱上了年轻漂亮的姜青,他也深深地知道整个世界都在恨他。中国的富人在穷人,中产阶级与政府之间活得焦虑而恐惧。他还在企鹅翻译工作组的文字中摘录了这样一段话:冯石告诉姜青,你知道福布斯是一个诅咒,如果你进入福布斯的名单,你就会死得很难看!
福布斯杂志颇有意味地在文中列举了一系列“福布斯”上榜者今天的下场,最后连《福布斯》杂志自己都不得不承认这个“福布斯咒语”在中国的确存在。就如同美国一旦时世艰难、民暴露出端倪,美国最富裕的阶层将照例遭到公共清洗一样。作家王刚的观点则更为激烈:“中国所有富有的资本家都有*的可怕历史�